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Possebon Loan ‘Cancelled’; Returns to United?

If reports in the Portuguese media are to be believed Rodrigo Possebon, who was loaned out to SC Braga, has returned to Manchester. Google translate is not the best, but according to this link, he’s been axed because of a squad trimming exercise by the coach.

I also saw it mentioned on the United Youth site in its roundup of our loanees. It’s a bit surprising it hasn’t been mentioned in the main United website.

Anyone who has any updates on this, do share in the comments.

522 Comments

522 Comments

  1. Grognard

    7 September 2009 at 21:47

    @Traverse: Can you not make your point without being rude? Seriously. Referring to me as someone who offers garbage when he speaks is so out of line simply because I don’t. And to say that I do is very insulting. But then again, I really don’t care what you think if you are going to reply like an ass.

  2. Grognard

    7 September 2009 at 21:49

    @Traverse: They do anyway. I’m sure Germany has better things to do than to waste two games outscoring San Marino 19-0. Groups would be fewer and would still be competitive. I do not see your point whatsoever.

  3. Grognard

    7 September 2009 at 21:49

    @Dan: What a surprise. ๐Ÿ™„

  4. Grognard

    7 September 2009 at 22:02

    @Craig Mc: Who cares about the minnows other than other minnows? Seriously, half a dozen teams have won the last 13 World Cups held. I hardly see a minnow revolution and I see the same big nations being consistent winners over that 55 year period. Who cares if there is an odd upset, when it’s all said and done, it’s the same half dozen that win. Brazil 5 wins, Italy 4 wins, Germany 3 wins, Argentina 2 wins England and France with one a piece. Apologies to Uruguay who have also won two but who have done nothing since the 30’s. Now where are all the minnows who are taking over? I didn’t see them win in 2002 or 2006. In the end it was the same old thing. 2002 a Germany vs Brazil final. In 2006 an Italy vs France final. Before then France vs Brazil, Italy vs Brazil, Germany vs Argentina twice in a row and Italy vs Germany. It’s the same old same old and it’s because these nations have a large pool of quality players to draw from and because they have strong domestic leagues.

    This isn’t rocket science. The fact that more nations are improving and getting better and more competitive is not going to change the fact that when it’s all over in South Africa, a previous winner of the Cup will win it or a well respected team that has come close like Spain or the Netherlands will. I pretty well think this makes my point but if none of you see it or agree with it, that’s fine too. I only brought it up because I love the history of the game and I believe that it’s that element of the game that makes a tournament like the World Cup as great as it is. If some suffer from ADD and cannot go back and understand it’s significance, then that’s their prerogative and their problem all in one.

    The World Cup is all about history and making history. One day somebody else unexpectedly will win the World Cup. But i don’t think it’s as soon as many of you may think.

  5. Traverse

    7 September 2009 at 22:45

    @Grognard: Stop offering garbage then! It is garbarge. If you’re getting uppity because I called your words garbage, then you sir have translucent skin.

    If only we could turn the world cup into a mundane North American style competition. Maybe countries could even change their name and move continents?

  6. Traverse

    8 September 2009 at 01:10

    This recently in… a quote from a former Le Havre coach : coach Laurent Herpe, who worked with Pogba two years ago, said: “I’m delighted that he’s going to England.

    “He doesn’t need any authorisation from Le Havre which never upgraded him to professional level.”

    Evidence is piling up. In even better news, a young player we were looking at was deemed to have a binding contract so we didn’t sign him up. Stupidly, Man City then did, and the club have stated that their case is even more comprehensive than the one bought against Chelsea. Silly Citeh.

  7. Redrich

    8 September 2009 at 01:37

    @Traverse: Your arguments would come across more convincingly if you could not spout your anti-American sentiments as an angle.

    This is after all, a multi-national forum, that, as far as I know, is lead from the afore mentioned “North American Continent”.
    Whether you care or not, the use of such language may offend and whether you care or not, it represents the view of a small minded Anglophiliac.
    If you can’t keep a global view in mind when stating your opinion, then just keep your conversation to the local issues and please ignore us heathens that live elsewhere!!

  8. Traverse

    8 September 2009 at 02:32

    @Redrich: It’s the North American system, what else do you want me to call it?

    I’m not anti-american by any stretch, just their boring closed system sports leagues.

  9. Redrich

    8 September 2009 at 02:40

    @Traverse: Of course you’re not! That’s why, whilst living in the UK, you see fit to call another country’s sporting system boring and closed!!

  10. Traverse

    8 September 2009 at 03:13

    @Redrich: Because I’ve watched it for years on tv, and it is a closed system. No relegation, thus a closed system. I can’t see where the controversy here is?

    What amazes me is that American sports are run in such a communist way. In a capitalist country run by the markets, with a hatred of commies, their national sports are run in a closed system, equal share of everything way. Just seems odd.

  11. Redrich

    8 September 2009 at 03:54

    @Traverse: Because you have no idea of what you’re talking about, it confuses your overall view of things in North America.
    Because you really believe that everything is closed and as you say odd, tells me and every other observer, that your fantasy of the way things are, in a place you’ve never lived in, has a less than objective viewpoint, and one that has a narrow sighting of what may be true or false!!

  12. cam

    8 September 2009 at 05:09

    on man utd website – re Pogba – “In response to the wholly unfounded comments widely reported in the media of Le Havre AC President, Jean-Pierre Louvel, Manchester United wishes to categorically confirm that as a matter of club policy, and in accordance with the applicable football regulations, it does not offer inducements to the parents of players that sign for the club, such as monetary payments or the purchase of houses.

    Manchester United has today written to Le Havre AC to put it on notice that action will be taken if such allegations are repeated in relation to the transfer of Paul Pogba.

    Manchester United is entirely satisfied that the transfer of Paul Pogba has been conducted in accordance with the regulations set down by the world governing body, FIFA. Manchester United is ready to defend any claim brought against it by Le Havre at FIFA.

    It is to be noted that all contractual documentation relating to the playerโ€™s registration with the club has already been fully ratified by The Football Association and the Premier League.”

  13. Grognard

    8 September 2009 at 05:34

    @Traverse: Fuck you major asshole! ๐Ÿ™„

  14. Grognard

    8 September 2009 at 05:36

    @Traverse: No your antisocial. ๐Ÿ™„

  15. Grognard

    8 September 2009 at 05:38

    @Redrich: There is no cap on the amount of ignorance some show on the internet mate. He’s not worth the effort to educate.

  16. spizzy

    8 September 2009 at 07:19

    @Grognard: Your whole argument on seeding teams for the world cup is baseless, why even call it the world cup,it should call itself the elite club and only your eight precious teams are allowed to participate. It could be football’s version of the ashes, or the rider cup, a tournament where the participants are already known and no need for qualification.
    Meanwhile let us keep our world cup, where new comers have a chance, and you are not guaranteed entry unless you host it, and you have to work your ass off to qualify meaning no resting on your laurels just because you won it twenty years ago, a tournament where you can expect the occasional upset, and where the favorites coming into the tournament rarely win it. Yes the world cup, a coming together of various nations, cultures and people, the greatest sporting event in the world.

  17. spizzy

    8 September 2009 at 07:31

    @RR, step in please, things are getting out of hand.

  18. Merlinus

    8 September 2009 at 08:03

    WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE ๐Ÿ˜ฏ … And RR, how loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong can a thread be???

  19. Dan

    8 September 2009 at 08:48

    Boo bloody hoo! Fact is, the american system is only america for a reason.

  20. Stephen

    8 September 2009 at 09:30

    @spizzy: That is a superb point, the World cup is not elitist, which was something I was getting at and was wrong about, it is a cultural coming together of various nations and people which has to be a good thing.
    Also if you can’t qualify for the competion then you have no right to be in it, simple.

  21. cam

    8 September 2009 at 16:53

    Getting back to the original thread headline many hundred posts ago, has the Possebon loan deal been cancelled and is he back in manchester? No or yes? Can someone please confirm?

  22. Grognard

    8 September 2009 at 18:10

    @spizzy: I don’t think it’s baseless at all. I left room for 21 other clubs to qualify not including the host nation which automatically does. That’s room for many many more teams from the rest of the world. So as I see it, I am respecting history, tradition and openings the door wide also for new teams and change as well.

    It’s not a question of resting on your laurels. I do see your point there, but these teams are historically great and produce a large amount of great players into the world game. It’s important for the World Cup to showcase these players for the build up of their brand and marketing the game and it’s beauty and excellence to the whole world. Many of the smaller teams come to these tournaments and play defensive team oriented football that is very boring to the purists and to those who love to see lots of goals and individual skills on display, they are nothing more than anti-football.

    Take Greece for example. In 2004 they pulled off one of the great miracles in sports history. It was great for their country, their football program and the game but the fact is, they played dull and pedestrian football. They basically set up ten men behind the ball and defended for 90 minutes and scored their odd goal from set pieces. Congrats to them but it was not a showcase for the game. Brazil, Argentina are showcases for the game. Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Cruyff, Messi and Ronaldo are showcases for the game, not Zakorakis, or Basinas or countless other no names on a hard working but boring team who win ugly and send the game into the Middle Ages from a tactical and entertainment point of view. And the only ones who would disagree with me there are Greeks and other minnow nations who play a similar style of football. The game is about entertainment and scoring goals, not building fortresses and defending for dear life.

    The game needs to maintain it’s entertainment value and beauty and those seeded teams guarantee that it keeps that. If one or two of those teams really go into the tank form wise for more than five or ten years, then like Uruguay (a two time winner), they get moved out of a sure seeding position. The seedings are not set in stone They are there for the existing eight but can be modified over decades to include new teams and exclude others that have fallen on prolonged hard times. But what this system does is maintain a certain quality, class and expectation for both fans of the game as well as purists who love history, tradition and above all, talent based football. I believe in the beautiful game, not the drudgery that 95% of the national teams in the world serve on a yearly basis.

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